WBEZ | Richard Steele http://www.wbez.org/tags/richard-steele Latest from WBEZ Chicago Public Radio en Morning Shift: A Morning Shift motown flashback with Lamont Dozier http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift/2015-06-26/morning-shift-morning-shift-motown-flashback-lamont-dozier-112261 <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/Mr Moss.jpg" alt="" /><p><p><iframe frameborder="no" height="166" scrolling="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/212098818&amp;color=ff5500&amp;auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false&amp;show_artwork=false" width="100%"></iframe></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 24px; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit;">A Morning Shift motown flashback with Lamont Dozier</span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Thursday on the Morning Shift we talked about the 40th anniversary of the film <a href="https://soundcloud.com/morningshiftwbez/cooley-high-turns-40?in=morningshiftwbez/sets/morning-shift-june-25-2015">Cooley High</a>. The movie followed a group of kids in Cabrini Green in the mid &lsquo;60s. The soundtrack is filled with Motown classics. Some of the biggest were penned by the songwriting team of Brian and Eddie Holland...and Lamont Dozier. Dozier was in town about a year and a half ago, and sat down with the Morning Shift and special guest Richard Steele, who spun thousands of Dozier&rsquo;s records over his long career in radio. We revisit part of that conversation. Listen to the whole interview <a href="https://soundcloud.com/morningshiftwbez/songwriting-legend-lamont">here</a>.</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><strong style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">Guests:&nbsp;</strong><em><a href="http://barbershopshow.tumblr.com/">Richard Steele</a> is a WBEZ producer and host.</em></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><i><a href="http://www.lamontdozier.com/">Lamont Dozier</a> is an award-winning songwriter and producer.&nbsp;</i></p></p> Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:30:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift/2015-06-26/morning-shift-morning-shift-motown-flashback-lamont-dozier-112261 Unmasking Ernie Banks http://www.wbez.org/news/culture/unmasking-ernie-banks-111480 <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/ernie.PNG" alt="" /><p><p>For baseball fans, the sound of Jack Brickhouse calling Ernie Banks&rsquo; 498th, 499th and most especially, the Chicago Cub&rsquo;s 500th home run is, euphoria. The week after Banks died at the age of 83, fans, fellow ballplayers and the media talked endlessly about his talent&mdash;and charisma.</p><p>&ldquo;He liked being out in the public, it was important to him, people would recognize him. And if they didn&rsquo;t recognize him right away they might because of the Cub jacket and Cub hat he always wore,&rdquo; sports writer Ron Rapoport said.</p><p>Rapoport first got to know Banks when he was a sports columnist for the <em>Chicago Sun-Times</em>. But says he didn&rsquo;t get to know the man until later in life, when both men were living in California.</p><p>&ldquo;He was wearing a mask. It was a good mask and he liked wearing it...but the mask wasn&rsquo;t the man,&rdquo; Rapoport said.&nbsp;</p><p>Rapoport said the man was thoughtful, reflective and complicated...and almost eloquent.</p><p>He used to clock how long it took Banks to remove the mask when they were out in public; said he averaged about 20 minutes.</p><p>Banks&rsquo; swing was natural, fluid, zen-like. But his public persona required coaching from the start.</p><p>&ldquo;Ernie&rsquo;s first important baseball job was with&nbsp; the Kansas City Monarchs of the old Negro Leagues where Buck O&rsquo;Neil was the manager. And O&#39;Neill used to tell him which restaurants to go to...not to be caught &ldquo;reckless eyeballing white women,&rdquo; Rapoport explained.</p><p>Banks eventually found his way with the Monarchs&mdash;then, Jackie Robinson happened. A few years later, when the Chicago Cubs chose to integrate, they went for Banks; but Banks didn&rsquo;t want to go.</p><p>&ldquo;I just felt comfortable playing in the Negro Leagues. I didn&#39;t know what to do or what to say; it was a learning process in learning how to get along...with white players,&rdquo; Banks told WBEZ in 2010.</p><p>Banks learned to say little to his teammates in the big leagues and, instead, made friends in the little leagues. During the offseason, teams would invite him to throw out the first pitch and meet the kids, but when he got there&hellip;.</p><p>&ldquo;They would look at me, they would start talking ...&rsquo;Oh, I thought he was white, he&rsquo;s black.&rsquo; Because of my name, they...they didn&rsquo;t know,&rdquo; Banks laughed.</p><p>Banks won back-to-back MVP titles and hit 512 home runs, but there were those who wished he&rsquo;d done more for race relations.</p><p>Former longtime WBEZ host Richard Steele shared that the subject frequently comes up at the Coleman Brothers Barber Shop on 62nd and Stony Island, a neighborhood gathering place. One of the brothers, James, is actually an old Army buddy of Banks--and as you might imagine, he&rsquo;s a fierce defender of his old friend.</p><p>&ldquo;There&rsquo;s a senior barber in there, Tommy, who&rsquo;s my barber, who knows how to get a rise out of Mr. Coleman. All you had to do is say something about Ernie Banks and Tommy would say, &ldquo;I hate to say it, he&rsquo;s kind of an Uncle Tom.&rsquo;&rdquo; Coleman would be furious and (14) he would say, &lsquo;Stop saying that! The man is a great baseball player, a great wonderful human being...I knew him in the Army...&rsquo;&rdquo; Steele recalled.</p><p>Banks became a household name around the same time as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. But many said Banks didn&rsquo;t fight to get the salary the best player on the team deserved. His max salary was $65,000, while some of the white players he took on in home run derbies were making $100,000.</p><p>Lots of people thought Ernie&rsquo;s silence kept other black players from earning a fair wage. But he wasn&rsquo;t comfortable fighting for it--it wasn&rsquo;t his nature.</p><p>Nowadays, athletes&rsquo; paychecks are bigger--but so is the pressure to do and say more. Longtime WBEZ sports contributor Cheryl Raye Stout says that&rsquo;s unfair.</p><p>&ldquo;To say because you dribble a ball or you hit a ball or you dunk a ball that you&rsquo;re supposed to be a spokesperson is difficult. You can only do that if you feel comfortable in doing it,&rdquo; said Raye-Stout.</p><p>Chicago Bulls star Derrick Rose has never been much of a public speaker. But when a kid from Englewood becomes the star of his hometown team--he&rsquo;s expected to put an end to the violence he&rsquo;s witnessed.</p><p>Last December, Rose made his biggest social statement yet--without speaking. He wore a t-shirt bearing the phrase, &ldquo;I Can&rsquo;t Breath&rdquo; during a pre-game warmup. The phrase refers to Eric Garner&rsquo;s last words. The New York man died after a police officer placed him in a chokehold while arresting him for selling loose cigarettes. The demonstration drew mixed reactions--but Rose was glad people paid attention.</p><p>&ldquo;My biggest concern is the kids, I know what they&rsquo;re thinking right now, I was one of them kids. When you live in an area like that and you don&rsquo;t got any hope and police are treating you any way---I&rsquo;m not saying all our police (officers) are treating kids bad but, when you live in an area like that it gives you another reason to be bad,&rdquo; Rose said.</p><p>There will never be a shortage of people telling professional athletes what to do. And that&rsquo;s the real reason, Banks said, &ldquo;let&rsquo;s play two&hellip;&rdquo; He didn&rsquo;t want to leave the field.</p><p>&ldquo;When you&rsquo;re playing baseball, on that field, it&rsquo;s like your whole life, it&rsquo;s your world and you don&rsquo;t want to leave it. It was such a joy to be there, to be able to make decisions on your own: when to swing, when not to swing; when to run, when not to run. I felt this is the only place in the world where I could make my own decisions,&rdquo; Banks said.</p><p>I asked Rapoport if Banks didn&rsquo;t like what was under the mask--he said that wasn&rsquo;t the case at all.</p><p>&ldquo;He&rsquo;d want people to remember the mask, that&rsquo;s what he would want people to remember about him. And that&rsquo;s fair; he&rsquo;s earned the right to be remembered the way he wants to be, I think,&rdquo; Rapoport explained.</p><p>When WBEZ spoke with Banks back in 2010, Landmarks Illinois had just named the Hall of Famer a Legendary Landmark. Asked if he had any regrets, Banks explained he often searched his footsteps for them--but delighted in life&rsquo;s ups and downs. And then, ever the entertainer, he broke out into his friend Frank Sinatra&rsquo;s classic, &ldquo;My Way.&rdquo;</p><p><em>Katie O&rsquo;Brien is a WBEZ reporter and producer. Follow her <a href="http://twitter.com/katieobez" target="_blank">@katieobez</a>.</em></p></p> Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:18:00 -0600 http://www.wbez.org/news/culture/unmasking-ernie-banks-111480 Morning Shift: Legend Richard Steele spins milestones of his career http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2014-10-09/morning-shift-legend-richard-steele-spins-milestones <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/_mg_6906.jpg" alt="" /><p><p>We take a look at Cook County&#39;s finances with Board President Toni Preckwinkle. Plus, retiring WBEZ staffer Richard Steele shares some of his favorite music from his many years as a music host here in Chicago.</p><div class="storify"><iframe allowtransparency="true" frameborder="no" height="750" src="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-70/embed?header=false&amp;border=false" width="100%"></iframe><script src="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-70.js?header=false&border=false"></script><noscript>[<a href="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-70" target="_blank">View the story "Morning Shift: Legend Richard Steele spins milestones of his career " on Storify</a>]</noscript></div></p> Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:22:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2014-10-09/morning-shift-legend-richard-steele-spins-milestones The Real Deal: The best of WBEZ's Richard Steele, according to his colleagues http://www.wbez.org/news/culture/real-deal-best-wbezs-richard-steele-according-his-colleagues-110914 <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/10377257_10152545879726000_8391299994939377138_n.jpg" alt="" /><p><div class="storify"><iframe allowtransparency="true" frameborder="no" height="750" src="//storify.com/WBEZ/the-real-deal/embed?border=false" width="100%"></iframe><script src="//storify.com/WBEZ/the-real-deal.js?border=false"></script><noscript>[<a href="//storify.com/WBEZ/the-real-deal" target="_blank">View the story "The Real Deal: The best of WBEZ's Richard Steele, according to his colleagues " on Storify</a>]</noscript></div></p> Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:19:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/news/culture/real-deal-best-wbezs-richard-steele-according-his-colleagues-110914 Morning Shift: Gov. Quinn organizes transit task force to take on scandals at agencies http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-08-22/morning-shift-gov-quinn-organizes-transit-task-force <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/Red Line - Flickr- Buddahbless.jpg" alt="" /><p><p>With an eye on improving service and eliminating corruption, Gov. Quinn has organized a transit task force. We discuss what&#39;s ahead for the panel. Also, the history and future of The Purple Hotel.&nbsp;</p><div class="storify"><iframe allowtransparency="true" frameborder="no" height="750" src="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-49/embed?header=false" width="100%"></iframe><script src="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-49.js?header=false"></script><noscript>[<a href="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-49" target="_blank">View the story "Morning Shift: Gov. Quinn organizes transit task force to take on scandals at agencies" on Storify</a>]</div></noscript></div></p> Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:17:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-08-22/morning-shift-gov-quinn-organizes-transit-task-force UIC unveils collection of Daley artifacts http://www.wbez.org/news/culture/uic-unveils-collection-daley-artifacts-108187 <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/Daley Collection_130725_kk.jpg" alt="" /><p><p dir="ltr" id="docs-internal-guid-205334a6-16f2-338c-bfb1-269a0e2158ee">The University of Illinois at Chicago unveiled a collection of documents from Richard J. Daley&rsquo;s 20-plus years as Chicago mayor Wednesday night.</p><p dir="ltr">The archive includes shelves of papers, memorabilia and more than 7,000 photographs.</p><p dir="ltr">It is open to researchers <a href="http://library.uic.edu/daley">by appointment</a>.</p><p dir="ltr">WBEZ&rsquo;s Richard Steele toured the collection with its archivist, Peggy Glowacki.</p><p dir="ltr">To hear about some surprising items in the collection (including a big fish?), listen to the audio above.</p><p><em>Produced by WBEZ&rsquo;s Katie Kather. Kather is an arts &amp; culture reporting intern at WBEZ. Follow her on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/ktkather">@ktkather</a>.</em></p></p> Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:45:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/news/culture/uic-unveils-collection-daley-artifacts-108187 Morning Shift: Music to make you work http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-07-11/morning-shift-music-make-you-work-108023 <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/Work-Flickr-mturnage.jpg" alt="" /><p><p>8th District Congresswoman Tammy Duckworth checks in from The Capitol with the latest on immigration talks and legislation around student loan interest rates. On the heels of former Groupon CEO Andrew Mason&#39;s album of work songs, we play songs about the daily grind.</p><script src="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-24.js?header=false"></script><noscript>[<a href="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-24" target="_blank">View the story "Morning Shift: Music to make you work" on Storify</a>]</noscript></p> Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:19:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-07-11/morning-shift-music-make-you-work-108023 Morning Shift: School's out for summer, may be time to make some cash http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-06-20/morning-shift-schools-out-summer-may-be-time-make <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/Crown Fountain 2-Flickr-QUOI Media.jpg" alt="" /><p><p>This week Chicago area schools are heading out for the summer. Parents and students explain what&#39;s on their agenda. What are you planning to do with more free time during the day? And as the Hawks wrap Game 4, what sports superstitions to you follow?&nbsp;</p><script src="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-schools-out-for-summer-may-be-time-t.js?header=false"></script><noscript>[<a href="//storify.com/WBEZ/morning-shift-schools-out-for-summer-may-be-time-t" target="_blank">View the story "Morning Shift: Schools out for summer, may be time to make some $" on Storify</a>]</noscript></p> Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:07:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-06-20/morning-shift-schools-out-summer-may-be-time-make On birthday of Beatle’s producer George Martin, a salute to record producers http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-01-03/birthday-beatle%E2%80%99s-producer-george-martin-salute <img typeof="foaf:Image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org//main-images/flickr_badgreeb Records.jpg" alt="" /><p><p>Quincy Jones, who was born in Chicago in 1933, has a long list of musical accomplishments that far outweigh most music producers.</p><p>He started his professional career as a trumpet player and soon landed a gig with Lionel Hampton&rsquo;s band. It was quickly noted that his real skill was arranging music. From there Jones went on to become an arranger in great demand, as well as a songwriter and record producer.</p><p>He&rsquo;s produced recording sessions with some of the biggest names in the business, including Frank Sinatra and Michael Jackson: Thriller is still the best-selling pop album of all time. Quincy&rsquo;s first time producing a pop record was in 1963 when he did a recording session with 16-year-old Leslie Gore.</p><p>The record was &ldquo;It&rsquo;s My Party&rdquo; and it went to number one shortly after its release.&nbsp; Jones found out that Phil Spector had a version by the Crystals that was about to be released, so he got the Leslie Gore version out first. This version of the song was recorded in 2010 by Amy Winehouse on Quincy&rsquo;s album, Q: Soul Bossa Nostra.&nbsp;</p><p>The record-producing team of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis is one of the most successful collaborations in the field of contemporary R&amp;B and hip-hop music.</p><p>They met in Minneapolis in the mid &lsquo;70s while they were still in high school. In their early days as working musicians, Jimmy was a keyboard player and Terry played bass in Flyte Tyme, a group that was managed by Prince and opened for him. On one occasion they missed a gig because they were trapped in a snowstorm. Prince was not happy. Ultimately, though, that storm provided the pair with an exit strategy from the band, and they started writing and producing as a team.</p><p>They had the good fortune to produce Janet Jackson right when she was on the verge of becoming a sexy, mature recording star. Their first project was a hit package called Control, but the second project in 1989 called Rhythm Nation 1814 gave Janet a whole new image and became one of the biggest records she ever made. It launched her into superstar status. This track is called &ldquo;Alright.&rdquo; There was also a phenomenal music video for this recording you should check out online.</p><p>In 1939, Alfred Lion founded the great jazz record label Blue Note, after he had emigrated from Berlin to the U.S. Lion had a keen interest in American jazz, combined with a good head for business.</p><p>He produced the label&rsquo;s first recorded projects, which showcased piano styles called stride and boogie woogie, featuring pianists Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis. Later in 1947 Lion&rsquo;s producer chops showed that he was also something of a visionary: He produced the first recording Thelonious Monk did under his own name. This, a self-titled track called &ldquo;Thelonious,&rdquo; is from that session.</p><p>Carl Davis was an extraordinary Chicago record producer who did not play any instrument or read music. He had the uncanny ability to listen to various recordings and pick the one that would be a hit. His career started in the 1950s, and his first big achievement was producing a record called &ldquo;The Duke of Earl&rdquo; by Chicago recording artist Gene Chandler (with The Dukays). It was released in 1961 and stayed at number one for five weeks. It was the first million-selling record for the Chicago label Vee-Jay.</p><p>Davis went on to produce hit recordings by the Chi-Lites, Jackie Wilson and Tyrone Davis. &ldquo;The Duke of Earl&rdquo; is still one of the most recognizable R&amp;B songs of the 1960s, which is not surprising since it accomplished the rare feat of holding the number one spot on both the soul music and pop charts at the same time.</p></p> Thu, 03 Jan 2013 08:06:00 -0600 http://www.wbez.org/programs/morning-shift-tony-sarabia/2013-01-03/birthday-beatle%E2%80%99s-producer-george-martin-salute The Race Talk http://www.wbez.org/blogs/bez/2012-08/race-talk-102026 <p><div class="image-insert-image "><img alt="" class="image-original_image" src="http://llnw.wbez.org/styles/original_image/llo/insert-images/1365071184_75cd9f40b5_z.jpg" style="height: 465px; width: 620px; " title="(Flickr/neovain)" /></div><p>There&rsquo;s a conversation that nearly all African-American families have had for decades. Children were told they had to be mindful of all their activities around white people so they wouldn&rsquo;t be judged to be a negative stereotype. That was because racism was ever-present. They were also told they had to be twice as good as their white counterparts to succeed.</p><p>Modern black families sometimes struggle with whether those ideas are still valid. I thought a good way to find out more about this would be to sit down for a talk with several generations of one family. I was friendly with a family perfectly suited for a candid conversation about the discussion of how they talk about race with their children. When I asked if they would participate, they said yes.</p><p>Janet Pena-Davis is the grandmother and family matriarch (and a good friend for many years). She and her family all gathered around a large dining room table at Jan&rsquo;s house and spoke honestly about the topic.</p><p>Two of Janet&rsquo;s three adult children participated with their spouses:&nbsp;daughter, Beth Philpotts, and her husband, Garfield Philpotts, along with their three daughters, Zoe, Zion, and Zinni; and son, Peter Davis, and his wife, Amy Davis, who is Chinese-American, who have a two-year-old daughter named Paige.</p><p>For many of you, this is a conversation you&rsquo;d probably never get to hear, until now.</p><p>The honest opinions and thoughts of this family may shed some light on another chapter in the race conversation. After hearing what they had to say, I&rsquo;m even more convinced that what we pass on to our children about race will have an impact on the future of the discussion.</p><p><iframe frameborder="no" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F57906295&amp;show_artwork=true" width="100%"></iframe><strong>Beth:</strong>&nbsp;There was never a major conversation on race, but it was very much a part of who you were, how you grew up. You were always taught to be aware of &ldquo;You&rsquo;re black so this may happen,&rdquo; or &ldquo;You can&rsquo;t go into Walgreens or they&rsquo;re going to look at you and suspect you if you&rsquo;re black.&rdquo; So there was no major conversation, it was an everyday dialogue.</p><p><br /><iframe frameborder="no" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F57906296&amp;show_artwork=true" width="100%"></iframe><br /><strong>Beth: </strong>We actually had a conversation that we were feeling like maybe we were teaching them about racism. Because it isn&rsquo;t...I don&rsquo;t want to say it&rsquo;s not that obvious to them, but it&rsquo;s certainly not that obvious to them. You know, on crazy hair day I have to make sure that my kids don&rsquo;t want to go to school with the image of their hair sticking up on end like Buckwheat. And my kids have no idea who Buckwheat is. So we had to introduce the negative imagery on race to help them understand race.<br /><br /><iframe frameborder="no" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F57906300&amp;show_artwork=true" width="100%"></iframe><br /><strong>Janet: </strong>Zin, you just said the other day&hellip;do you remember what you said about who Zoe liked? Zoe only likes&hellip;<br /><strong>Zinni:</strong> I don&rsquo;t feel like saying it because it might embarrass her.<br /><strong>Janet: </strong>No, it won&rsquo;t embarrass her because nobody can see her. Go ahead and say it<br /><strong>Zinni: </strong>Uh, that she really only likes people who are white&hellip;<br /><strong>Janet:</strong> Was it people or was it&hellip;<br /><strong>Zinni:</strong> Boys.<br /><strong>Richard:</strong> So now why did you think that, why did you say that?<br /><strong>Zinni: </strong>I don&rsquo;t know any of exactly her crushes who aren&rsquo;t.<br /><br /><iframe frameborder="no" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F57906297&amp;show_artwork=true" width="100%"></iframe><br /><strong>Garfield:</strong> I don&rsquo;t care who my daughters marry. In the heart of my heart. But I certainly want them to at least give someone who looks like me a chance, and to be attracted to someone that looks like me. That I do.<br /><strong>Richard:</strong> Well, wait until it&rsquo;s Junior prom time and you&rsquo;ll be put to the test.<br /><strong>Garfield: </strong>Whether I&rsquo;ll accept -- whatever. But also growing up, let&rsquo;s be clear. I&rsquo;ve walked a different walk. I have walked a different walk. I was in a white fraternity, call it what it is. But here&rsquo;s the thing: I also knew those guys&mdash;those people&mdash;who said I&rsquo;m in it because I have a self-hate. Versus I&rsquo;m in it because I&rsquo;m trying to experience some different things. I like to think I was in it for trying to experience some different things. I want not to have self-hate.</p><p><iframe frameborder="no" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F57906298&amp;show_artwork=true" width="100%"></iframe><br /><strong>Garfield (on a discussion he had with one of his father&#39;s friends, who is black): </strong>We talk about how we confine our kids, because if we didn&rsquo;t, you know back in the day our kids could have gotten killed. Emmit Till&mdash;he looked at this white girl and he got hung up, strung up. But the world has changed, and he has said &ldquo;I&rsquo;m not stopping my child from doing this because I want them to feel that the world is their oyster.&rdquo; And I&rsquo;m like, &ldquo;I gotta to think about that. I have to think about that.&rdquo; Because how many times we&rsquo;re in the airport and we&rsquo;re in different restaurants, and we see&hellip;call it what it is&mdash;just white kids just RUNNING. The world is their oyster. So we have to think about: Why are we shutting down our kids so much, why are we locking them down so hard? Why are we locking them down so hard? Make the world their oyster!<br /><br /><b style="font-weight: normal; "><iframe frameborder="no" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F57906301&amp;show_artwork=true" width="100%"></iframe></b><br /><strong>Peter (who was asked how he&#39;ll explain his daughter&#39;s mixed ethnicity to her):&nbsp;</strong>Uh, you know what? It&rsquo;s weird because I&rsquo;m not really sure how we&rsquo;ll address that. I think we&hellip;<br /><strong>Amy:</strong> Never thought about it.<br /><strong>Peter:</strong> Either I never thought about it, or I think one day I was like, &ldquo;Well, &nbsp;what&rsquo;s on her birth certificate?&rdquo; So I&rsquo;m not even sure what her race says, to be honest. I know that sounds bad&hellip;on her birth certificate&hellip;if we even had to put a race. I&rsquo;m not sure. But I don&rsquo;t know. I guess when it happens it happens, if it comes up, it comes up.</p></p> Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:29:00 -0500 http://www.wbez.org/blogs/bez/2012-08/race-talk-102026