A hurricane is terrifying, but evacuating one can be just as scary — and as deadly. How do we know when it’s time to go? We make sense of how evacuations work with Bill King, a former columnist for the Houston Chronicle who served on a gubernatorial task force after Hurricane Rita’s deadly evacuations, Brian Wolshon, director of the Gulf Coast Center for Evacuation and Transportation Resiliency and Melvin “Kip” Holden, mayor of Baton Rouge, Louisiana from 2005 to 2016. First, we get an update on rescue efforts in Houston from Gail Delaughter, a reporter for Houston Public Media and talk to Philip Yun, executive director of the anti-nuclear group Ploughshares, about Japan’s response to a new threat from North Korea. Yun is a former presidential appointee at the Department of State.