In a wide-ranging interview with NPR, White House chief of staff John Kelly spoke about President Trump’s border wall plans and, at moments, struck a slightly different tone than Trump on immigration. We talk with John Burnett, the NPR reporter who interviewed Kelly. Also, HBO’s new comedy “Barry” wraps up its first season this weekend. The show features Bill Hader as a hitman who’s trying to turn over a new leaf as an actor in Los Angeles. And this week marks the 134th anniversary of the birth of President Harry S. Truman. Here & Now’s Jeremy Hobson finds out more about the 33rd president. That and more, in hour two of Here & Now’s May 11, 2018 full broadcast.