In this unedited interview, Roshi Joan Halifax and Krista Tippett talk in front of a live audience at the Chautauqua Institution. It’s easy to feel overwhelmed by all the bad news and horrific pictures in the world. This is a form of empathy, Joan Halifax says, that works against us. The Zen abbot and medical anthropologist has bracing, nourishing thoughts on finding buoyancy rather than burnout in how we work, live, and care.