Robert Thurman and Sharon Salzberg helped bring Buddhism to America in the 1970s. She became a beloved meditation teacher; he became a leading scholar of Buddhist philosophy and psychology. They shine a light on the lofty ideal of loving your enemies and bring it down to earth. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Sharon Salzberg and Robert Thurman — Meeting Our Enemies and Our Suffering.” Find more at onbeing.org.