On this weekend’s Meet the Press, Mike Huckabee asked, “Is South Carolina a racist state because of the flag that flies on their Capitol grounds?” On The Gist, Mike Pesca answers, “No, the flag flies over the Capitol because it’s a racist state.”

Also on the show, professional storyteller Matthew Dicks is here for another lesson with our winning listener, Frank Kennedy. This class focuses on the four lies you’re encouraged to tell when framing your own story.

For the Spiel, some non-obvious points about the shooting in Charleston, South Carolina.

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