On the latest episode of the Talkhouse Podcast, we get to listen in on two friends and recent collaborators in conversation: actor Jon Cryer (of Two and a Half Men fame) and musician Ben Lee. The pair, who teamed up on the musical B is for Beer, which Lee adapted with Tom Robbins from the iconic novelist’s book of the same name – and then roped in Cryer to both direct and play the role of the Beer Vendor. In a wide-ranging chat recorded at Lee’s house in Los Angeles, Jon and Ben discuss being famous in your teens (and then trying to become a grounded adult), their partnership on B is for Beer, how to deal with setbacks and failures in show business, Ben’s life-changing moment being cast at age 7 in Uncle Moishy and His Mitzvah Men, Jon’s memories of working on Superman IV, and much, much more. For more filmmakers musicians in conversation, visit Talkhouse at talkhouse.com and subscribe now to stay in the loop on future episodes of the Talkhouse Podcast.

Episode recorded by Ben Lee in Los Angeles, and recorded and co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi at Hook & Fade Studios in Brooklyn. The Talkhouse podcast producer is Elia Einhorn.