To celebrate the release of A$AP Ferg’s new joint “Pups,” which features fellow Mob member A$AP Rocky, we’re re-sharing the Hood Pope’s rad 2017 Talkhouse convo with culinary icon — and, as we learn, former rap producer — Andrew Carmellini. Check it out.

On Talkhouse’s premiere food culture episode (part of its new Talkhouse x Food Republic series), New York City chef and restaurateur Andrew Carmellini meets Harlem rapper A$AP Ferg at the flagship Sonos store in NYC. In their conversation, they discuss the challenges of their respective crafts, their role as leaders, branding, cooking and more. Check out these two New York cultural titans chopping it up, and subscribe now on iTunes or Stitcher to stay in the loop on future episodes of the Talkhouse Podcast.