A special live taping of the Vulture TV podcast at the New York Television Festival. Discover the origin stories of Matt and Margaret, as well as their uncensored opinions on the state of modern television. This episode is sponsored by “Legends” on TNT and GE Podcast Theater’s “The Message.” This episode contains spoilers for the following TV shows: How I Met Your Mother: 21:12 - 21:40 Joan of Arcadia: 33:37 - 33:48 Hannibal: 34:32 - 34:46