Vulture TV columnist Margaret Lyons and Vulture TV editor Gazelle Emami discuss Fox’s breakout hit, Empire; Joe Adalion interviews Empire’s show runner Ilene Chaiken; Plus a listener question about just how much Mindy Kaling The Mindy Project can sustain.
Note: This episode contains spoilers in the following discussions:
Empire Season 1 through episode 10 from 2:45-21:00
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