In conjunction with the exhibition This Will Have Been: Art, Love & Politics in the 1980s and the presentation of Armitage Gone! Dance’s Drastic-Classicism and Three Theories, artist David Salle and choreographer Karole Armitage discuss their individual works and past collaborations—focusing on the 1980s—with exhibition curator Helen Molesworth.

This Will Have Been: Art, Love & Politics in the 1980s features a wide range of artworks made by a diverse group of nearly one hundred artists, demonstrating the decade’s moments of contentious debate, raucous dialogue, erudite opinions, and joyful expression—all in the name of an expanded idea of freedom, long the promise of democratic societies.

Armitage Gone! Dance choreographer Karole Armitage creates work inspired by physics, sixteenth-century Florentine fashion, pop culture, and new media. Drastic-Classicism (1981) features a strong 1980s aesthetic with dancers in ripped, black costumes and a rock score by Rhys Chatham, performed onstage by a drummer and four electric guitarists.