In 2011, as part of the exhibition “Without You I’m Nothing: Art and its Audience,” artist Kirsten Leenaars produced On Our Way to Tomorrow, a soap opera based on real-life drama that was filmed on location using MCA staff and visitors as the core actors and extras. While the characters are fully fictionalized, scripts and improvisations were based on their actual positions at the museum. Leenaars is joined in conversation by Michael Darling, James W. Alsdorf Chief Curator, to discuss excerpts from the soap opera series.