Lena is back with Alissa Bennet to share the first episode of their new podcast, The C-Word! It’s a chat show about women history loves to call “crazy.” 

In this episode: Heiress to the Johnson & Johnson fortune, Casey was a 2000s tabloid staple known for her wild partying, badly-behaved pets, and tumultuous relationships, before her untimely death at age 30. Lena & Alissa discuss wealth, fame, and growing up in the public eye.

The C-Word is available only on Luminary, a new podcast app.