Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte makes international headlines for his abrasive style and violent methods in dealing with crime.

Nicknamed “Duterte Harry” and “The Punisher’, he has threatened to personally kill suspected drug dealers and drug users. Local media print “kill lists” of extrajudicial killings, in the thousands, by his police and security forces. Some even accuse Duterte’s forces of killing politicians who lose his favor.

We talk about Duterte’s bloody methods with Phelim Kine, deputy director in Human Rights Watch’s Asia Division.