This week, Shirley Li, staff writer for The Atlantic, and Avery Trufelman, host of Articles of Interest, stop by to chat about the end to Netflix’s DVDs in red envelopes, the popularity of voice notes, and the woman who loved living in a cave so much she never wanted to leave.

Then, writer, actor, comedian, and musician Lane Moore joins us to discuss her new book You Will Find Your People: How to Make Meaningful Friendships as an Adult. She explains why advice to go on coffee dates and attend events just doesn’t cut it. Instead, she encourages others to embrace vulnerability and patience.

Plus, we share another installment of our Nerdy Jobs series, where we take a peek into a person’s very specific and maybe a little strange job! This week, Micah Morton explains how food stylists make edible art.