If you’ve ever looked at a ward map in Chicago, you’ve seen how snaky and oddly-shaped the city’s electoral districts are. In cities and states all over the U.S., legislative districts are drawn and redrawn by whichever politicians currently hold power.

Is there a politically neutral way to draw districts? Kathay Feng has spent her career making a case for one. As a lawyer, she built a bipartisan coalition that helped instate a non-partisan commission to draw California’s congressional districts. She’s currently the national redistricting director for Common Cause, an organization that’s currently the plaintiff in a U.S. Supreme Court case challenging North Carolina’s congressional districts.

Feng joins Worldview to talk more about alternatives to partisan redistricting, both in the U.S. and abroad.