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The Scaramucci Call

Ryan Lizza and David Remnick listen to excerpts from the infamous late-night call that ended Anthony Scaramucci’s brief term as White House communications director. While Scaramucci’s behavior and language on that call were shocking even by Trump standards—he called Reince Priebus “a paranoid schizophrenic”  and accused him of leaking his finances and–Lizza believes that his appointment followed a familiar pattern. “So many politicians believe when they’re failing, they believe that the real problem is just a communications strategy: that if only the American public heard and saw what the most loyal supporters saw in the President, everything would be solved,” Lizza says. “‘Let Trump be Trump’ is the cliche, right? That was Scaramucci’s communications strategy, and I think that’s how he helped convince the President that he should take over the communications shop, even though he had no experience doing this.”  Plus, Jake Halpern goes underground—literally—in Poland to look for the legendary train filled with gold and other treasures, and abandoned by the Nazis under a mountain at the end of the Second World War.    


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