On the latest episode of the Talkhouse Podcast, Moonlight‘s Oscar-winning writer-director Barry Jenkins sits down with fellow filmmaker and (and fellow Talkhouse contributor!) Eliza Hittman to talk about Beach Rats, her sophomore feature which is currently in theaters. The friends discuss how they bonded while doing the Cinereach Fellowship (aka “filmmaker therapy”), the parallels between Moonlight and Beach Rats, the challenges of shooting on a beach at night, how they both feared overly muscular actors might “ruin” their films, and much more. For more filmmakers talking film and TV, visit Talkhouse Film at talkhouse.com/film. Subscribe now on iTunes or Stitcher to stay in the loop about future Talkhouse Podcasts.