Today’s show features Blake Schwarzenbach (Jawbreaker, Jets To Brazil) and chef Graham Elliot (Masterchef, Top Chef) in conversation live from Virgin Hotels Chicago.

Their talk covers some of the big experiences of their respective art forms — the inherent pressures of reuniting with a legendary band, or of being asked to recreate classic dishes in a high pressure public environment; false “perfection” vs. authenticity in the recording studio and in the kitchen — as well as Jawbreaker’s formation, rise and reunion, and the consequences of speaking out politically while being a star on Top Chef. It also takes in wet sax solos, keytars, Auto-Tune, Trump supporters at Jawbreaker shows, menu B-sides, being Gordon Ramsay’s “backup dancer,” and vocal fry vs. frying.

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This episode was recorded by Greg Panciera at Virgin Hotels Chicago, and by Mark Yoshizumi at Hook & Fade Studios in Brooklyn. It was co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi.