A garage is a pretty comfortable place for Mikal Cronin. He’s been making rock music with his buddies since high school, especially with his longtime friend and collaborator Ty Segall. As he tells Marc, it’s always been a DIY affair. Plus, Patrick Stickles from Titus Andronicus returns to get Marc up to speed on his new rock opera.

This episode is sponsored by Merge Records, Anthony Jeselnik: Thoughts And Prayers on Netflix, Nathan For You on Comedy Central, and Stamps.com.