Gothic folk duo The Handsome Family meet up with Marc while he’s in Albuquerque to talk about American roots music, carnival sideshows, meeting your heroes, and dealing with bipolarity. But first, documentary filmmaker Sam Pollard joins Marc in the garage to talk about his new film Two Trains Runnin’, a look at the summer of 1964, as history converged in unexpected ways. This episode is sponsored by Pete Holmes: Faces and Sounds on HBO, Squarespace, Carnivore Club, and Audible.