Lawrence O’Donnell is on MSNBC every weeknight talking about the chaos and tumult of uncertain times. He’s no stranger to historic national turbulence, as he came of age in the Vietnam Era and received his draft notice shortly before the U.S. withdrawal. Lawrence talks with Marc about those times, which are the subject of his new book, but also about his Boston upbringing, his father’s career change from cop to defense attorney, his job in the U.S. Senate, and his time writing for The West Wing. This episode is sponsored by HelloFresh and ZipRecruiter.