This week, our friends Dan Pashman, host of The Sporkful podcast and author of the new cookbook Anything’s Pastable, and Helen Rosner, staff writer at The New Yorker and author of the newsletter The Food Scene, go all in on food in another round of our favorite game of Burden or Delight.

Plus, producer Anna Bauman adventured to Indianapolis this week to see the total solar eclipse. We listen to what it was like to be surrounded by people who stopped to sit and wonder at our sky.