It has been a week! President Biden announced a student loan forgiveness plan that will impact millions. Dr. Anthony Fauci shared his decision to retire at the end of this year. And people would not stop talking about the made up phrase “quiet quitting.” We get into all of it with Sam Sanders, host of the Vulture podcast Into It, and Saeed Jones, author of the forthcoming poetry collection Alive at the End of the World. They also host the new Stitcher podcast Vibe Check with Zach Stafford.

Then, indie rock artist Courtney Barnett opens up about her struggles with anxiety, self-confidence, and the pressures of fame while on tour. Her experience is documented in the new film Anonymous Club directed by Danny Cohen.