It’s another week and the controversy over Spotify is still happening. We asked two of our colleagues at WBEZ to talk about it with us. Patrick Smith is a criminal justice reporter and Mariah Woelfel is a political reporter. We also dive into the Wordle craze and even take a stab at talking about football.

Then we hear about the book bans popping up in public school libraries nationwide. Emily Knox is the author of Book Banning in 21st-Century America and an associate professor at the University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign.

Plus, three knitting pattern designers, Andrea Mowry, Jennifer Berg and Safiyyah Talley, give us a look at their craft.