This week, Vocalo host Nudia Hernandez and host of WBEZ’s The Rundown Erin Allen join us to unwind from the week that was. We chat about Barbra Streisand’s extremely long memoir, The Simpsons’ attempts to keep up with the times, and how to cope with shorter days.

Then, we talk to two of the showrunners on the Apple TV+ show For All Mankind, Matt Wolpert and Ben Nedivi. The series supposes what might have happened if the Soviet Union had won the race to the moon. In this alternate history, NASA is more motivated to keep trying new things as the underdog. As a result, we end up making scientific advancements way faster than we did in our timeline — like going to Mars by the 90s. We talk to the two creators about the season 4 premier.