Gov. JB Pritzker approved a commission to explore whether or not Illinois needs a new flag. The current one — which has been mostly the same for about a century — has a lot going on. An American eagle clutching a stars-and-stripes-decorated shield while taking a bite out of a red banner in the foreground. There’s a yellow sun over blue water in the background, and a gray rock bearing the years 1818 and 1868.

But what would an updated flag look like now? What should it look like? We turn to a longtime local flag maker for his take.

GUEST: Carl “Gus” Porter III, owner of WGN Flag and Decorating Company